Xue Kan, weeding among the flowers, asked: 'Why under heaven is good so hard to nurture and evil so hard to weed out?'
The Master said: 'It is only that they are not nurtured and not weeded.' Then after a moment: 'To see good and evil thus is to start from the body's perspective, and there one goes wrong.'
Kan did not follow.
'The creative life of heaven and earth makes no distinction between flower and grass — when was there good and evil? Wishing to view flowers, you call the flower good and the grass evil; wanting grass, you call the grass good. Such good and evil spring from your mind's likes and dislikes — hence the error.'
'Then there is no good and no evil?'
'No good and no evil is principle at rest; good and evil are the stirrings of vital energy. Unmoved by energy, there is no good and no evil — this is called the highest good.'
'The Buddhists also say no good no evil — how do they differ?'
'The Buddhists fix upon no-good-no-evil and let everything go — they cannot govern the world. The sage's no good and no evil is only not deliberately approving, not deliberately disapproving, unmoved by energy; yet following the king's way and converging on due measure, he moves wholly by heavenly principle, with the work of regulating and assisting. As for grass: if it obstructs, what harm in removing it?'
'But that again is deliberate liking and disliking.'
'Not to do it deliberately is not to lack liking and disliking — that would be a thing without feeling. Not doing means only that liking and disliking wholly follow principle, with not one extra scrap of intention added — as if there had been no liking or disliking at all.'
'How is weeding grass following principle without added intention?'
'If the grass obstructs, by principle it should go: remove it and be done. If for the moment it is not removed, let it not burden the mind. Add one scrap of intention, and the mind-substance is encumbered and stirred.'
'Then good and evil are not in things at all?'
'Only in your mind: following principle is good, being stirred by energy is evil.'
'After all, things have no good and evil.'
'In the mind it is so; in things likewise. Common scholars, not knowing this, quit the mind and chase things, mistaking the study of investigating things, galloping outward all day, achieving only a righteousness snatched by surprise — lifelong acting without understanding, practicing without awareness.'
'Then what of loving a good sight as one loves beauty, hating a stench?'
'That is wholly following principle: heavenly principle is so of itself, with no private intention to like or dislike.'
'How can that not be intention?'
'It is sincere intention, not private intention. Sincere intention only follows heavenly principle — and even then not one scrap of intent may be added. Hence with anger or fondness clinging, the mind is not rectified; only vast impartiality is the mind's substance. Know this and you know the equilibrium before arousal.'
Bosheng said: 'You said: if the grass obstructs, by principle remove it — why did you call that starting from the body?'
'That you must examine in your own mind. When you weed the grass, what mind is it? And Zhou Maoshu leaving the grass before his window uncut — what mind was that?'